cut after tax income by almost 3 trillion dollars and reduce household income overall by well over 2 grand. and harry reid says the ryan budget is extreme? to weigh in, kirsten powers and co-host of "the five" dana perino. mike crapo, the senator from idaho asked the budget staff, what about the budget? we haven't seen the details, what do you make of it, what's the cuts and deficit reduction and i'm quoting now, it's zero in the first year in total said a member of that state to the senator. they're not trying, right? zero? >> well, i don't know why anybody's really shocked by this. after all we've heard from many leaders in the democratic party that they don't even think there is a spending problem. so, and the president has made pretty clear that cutting the deficit isn't his top priority. so, you know, i mean i actually don't share that point of view and i think there are democrats who don't share that point of view, but the fact of the matter is the people who are leaders of the democratic party today have been pretty clear they're in the sort of paul krugman camp of this is not